Fifa 10 Ultimate Team "The Trading Game"
68I have written quite a few guides on fifa ultimate team as i seem to do rather well at trading,but i have not denoted an entire hub to just trading so here it is,My other hub Fifa 10 ultimate team tips and strategies went into detail a little about how to use trading cards as a way to increase the amount of coins at your disposal,however when this one page is attracting 1000 hits a day you can imagine how many questions i was getting asked constantly and it was becoming a bit of a task replying to them all so i have made this guide for dummies so that hopefully all questions about trading and earning coins will be answered in the following paragraphs,the main question i got was "how much i should sell so and so for" well unfortunately i do not keep all these answers in my head,some i could answer and some i could not,but what follows if read and carried out properly will enable people without a clue to be able to make a profit from trading players on ultimate team.
Starting off at scratch!!!!
Now i think the best place to start would be from the absolute beginning,now obviously you will have a rag tag of a team assembled and you will need to go out and win a few matches to get some starting coins,i would say 1500-2000 coins should be perfectly adequate and you should only need to win say 4-5 matches to do this,so approximately an hour later you should have the required funds.The next thing you will need to do is make your first trade,and ladies and gentlemen this is where you need to get it right,i would suggest going for a player that you know well,perhaps one you have brought before and one that without looking you know what to pay for him and what sort of mark up you will make.If I'm making suggestions a good one will always be Stuart Downing,mainly because he is an 81 rated winger which if you look, is better than both Theo Walcott and Shaun Wright Phillips who are highly rated and can both go for way over 5000 coins.Obviously markets fluctuate but you can usually get Downing for less than a thousand coins and usually sell him for BIn for at least 1500,You will need to do this a couple of times to get a few more hundred coins in the bank.Next up how to choose the correct players to buy.....
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Choosing The Correct Players To Sell
This is the part where most people fall down and end up either, making a loss or getting bored of not being able to sell their player and losing interest in trading at all.I get asked every day either through this site or on xbox live "how much should i sell so and so for", and you know what, unless I'm familiar with the player i don't know,just because i wrote two guides on player prices i am apparently supposed to know all the players price tags off by heart,well i am a self confessed UT guru but I'm not memory man!!!.No, this is how i do it and how i have never lost coins on a deal even if i don't know the player that well,this will work for everyone no matter how unknowlegable you are about trading or football players,listen up this is the important bit ladies and gentlemen.....
Right you want to buy a player and then sell him on for a profit,fine,think of a player!!! did you say Craig Bellamy? OK fine lets use him as an example,Now i don't know what he goes for but this is how i would make a profit from him. Firstly go to the market place and search for gold players playing in the premiership as a forward for man city.right up he comes with a few other players,now note that he is welsh and what position,come back out and do the same search but with the extra options of nationality and position added.right up he comes all on his own look.Now choose to watch the first 20 Craig Bellamy's,right go off and play a match or do something else for half hour or so,now when you come back most of them would of sold or finished their time,you need to look through them and see the ones that sold,note the lowest price they sold for and the highest price they sold for.say the highest was 6000 and the lowest was 4100,then armed with this knowledge i would go off and try and buy a Craig Bellamy for around 4-4500 and sell for 5-5500,do not be greedy,sometimes it works but on the whole it doesn't.Try to be cheap but not the cheapest out of all the ones you search through,and that's it,you need to do some research people before you buy,it works from Stuart Downing to Christiano Ronaldo trust me.
I traded my way to these coins in less than a day!!!
Bidding
I have had a lot of questions also regarding bidding such as when should i bid and how to do it correctly so i don't end up paying to much for a player i will never sell.Well this is not the only way to do it but this is how i do it,Firstly i will only bid on a player that i have done a bit of research on, or one that i know off the top of my head what he sells for,so you will need to follow the above paragraphs first before you start bidding properly.Firstly i do a search for the player then i will only bid if the time allotted is less than 10 minutes,why? you may ask,well time is money and if i put in a bid on Rooney at 90,000 with 50 minutes to go,then i am down 90,000 coins for the next 50 minutes thus making it hard for me to bid on anyone else should i see a better deal.So bid with less than 10 minutes to go,i usually watch for a couple of minutes to try and gauge how many people are bidding then i will jump in with a minute left and make a bid.
Know Your Limit!!!!! know what the maximum you are willing to pay for the player to make a profit and stick to it,do not waiver.if the player is not worth more than 2000 do not pay 2400 just because some chump you have never met is bidding higher than you.With 14 seconds left i will make a slightly bigger bid,maybe upping the price by a few hundred just to try and shake up my opposition,then once I've made one bid i will make another one 50 coins higher immediately after and then again straight away after that so i have made 3 bids in less than 5 seconds.Why? because to my opposing bidders it looks like there are quite a few people bidding last minute which causes them to bail out.It does not always work but mostly it does.
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Temptation
Temptation comes in all forms in life but one of the biggest temptations is to spend all your hard earned coins on gold packs......DO NOT DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trust me packs are just luck,sometimes your lucky and you get a good player sometimes you are not,the best i have done is getting Carlos Tevez in one pack and then in the next one i opened i got Theo Walcott,it happens but out of 100 packs i have opened that is as good as it gets.Again when you get to a certain amount of coins you may feel the need to hit the markets just to spend and improve your team,go ahead its worth it,if you buy say 88 rated Thierry Henry for 25000 you would be getting a good deal, if you spent 25000 on packs you would get 3 premium packs and would you get a player of his calibre in those 3 packs.??? highly unlikely,so spend away if you want just leave yourself with enough coins to start over again,i am now on my 5th time of starting from scratch but my team is improving all the time.Another good way of building your best squad is to do what i do,i will have say Berbatov up front and want to improve with all the coins i have made well i will just buy say hulk for instance at 16k then sell berbatov for 5k and at least i have made some of my coins back,it is surprising how many top class players you can get when you trade up like this.
Tips
Little tips i have learnt while on my fifa ultimate team journey, do not get a rubbish gold player and put him up for sale for 250 coins when you can just discard him and receive over 300 coins,also the shiny gold ones no matter how rubbish they are will get you 600 odd coins when discarded,remember that little fact people.Check what position the player is playing in before purchasing as you can make a mistake,i remember buying tevez for a bargain 12k but then looking down he was a Central Midfielder,and buying a card to convert him would of cost 4-5k so i had to put him up 5times before he sold,don't be caught out,secondly when bidding on certain players that are expensive such as David Villa or Fernando Torres,people will put in very similar players alongside that are worth nothing but put them up for the same kind of amount,ie they will be the same nationality or maybe even the same team so when flicking through it is hard to distinguish,don't be caught out buying a 79 rated player for 80,000 coins OK.
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@ali thanks for your comment the first of many im sure.
I've commented before :/ Great...
Hey man,
i have read al your other hubs and they are really useful. Quick question, i have around 100,000 coins and i want to use this to trade with, what players should i be looking to sign?
@montgomery lol explain the mothod i may have but didnt know it had a name!!
@dan glad they have helped,i would go for perhaps ibrahimovic if you can get him for less than 79k or also kaka for less than 52k and lampard for less than 50k
@montgomery no i havent!!! Ahh so the Ultimate team guru has missed something LOL i will try that and let u know how i get on!!!Thanx
Good method Montgomery :P.. Gonna try it,Btw another good guide Warchild :)
@elliot thanks man!!
How are you suppost to get contracts if you dont buy packs?
and that ea football thing still wont work and i cant figure out how to look at your team so...
you can buy contracts on the trade market, just change the filters.
@ryan yeah bills right u can buy contract cards off the trade market,in fact if you need any i have 4pages of them,i'll do u the 80rated ones at 200 a touch!!
yeah i know i just wish the ea page would let u post a pic of your sqaud to it,join up though because then u can add me as a friend and upload videos,i have 3 or 4 videos on mine which you would be able to see
@montgomery all gone my friend, and yeah i had a look but forgot to put the minimum bin and couldnt be bothered to get to the end again lol
Warchild heres my squad :)
Ali that team would be mint with di natale LW.
@Rangermouse lol yeah u know it m8!!
P.s anyone to lazy to click the link in the link box here's mine http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/ultimateteam/app
Rangermouse i forgot to mention. all these players are costing me nothing to play with which is what i want right now whilst im trading. In a sense this team is pretty much free lol All players were bought below trade/discard value + contracts. E.g a 75 non shiny discard = 300. Each player earns at least 250/11 = ~25 coins per contract (if no substitutes made) So a non shiny 75 player with 7 contract is worth about (25 x 7) + 300 = 475 if your looking to play them. So all of these are bought with this in mind as i am looking to play with all of them. So if i find a bargain di natale or an average priced one with loads of contracts ill add them although I dont want to spend too much because i want as much as poss to use for trading at any one time.
@Ryan Following on from that. You dont neccesarily need to buy contracts if you dont want to. Just filter Buy it now max price 450 or 500 on a gold player and any player with 7 contracts is worth buying if your looking to play them for at least 7 games. If you do require contracts buy a gold one for at least for at most 325 but you can pick up one easily for 200-250 :)
Damn sorry didnt realise how bit it was. Summary: Team costs me nothing.
@ali u do bang on dont ya!!! lol ur starting to sound like me.p.s i just brought a 90 rated puyol ooops!!!
p.s here is the updated version of my team including a rather brilliant centre back http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/ultimateteam/app
Amazing, but I suppose thats just normal for you.Another great hub.
@mikeversion14 lol thanks man,i write them in the hope that they help some of you guys out and the seem to so im happy.
Yeah sorry :P lol one thing lead to another as they usually do lol. Btw If that were my team id consider playing a dm in that centre cm position or on the left cm to keep chem then change in game. Toure of Barcelona would be good.
i still cant get the website to work and i dont know how to send in the questions so can you do me a favor and send one onf those customer support questions in for me or tell me what to do
What favour is it ryan and also what customer suport question do you need to send. Perhaps i can help.
when i hit manage squad to try and up load my ultimate team it says the page can not be found and tell me to go to customer support but when i go to customer support i cant wright a letter..
@ali thanks for that i'll bear it in mind,
@ryan i have had that before ryan,its a bit annoying,i tried logging in with a different computer which seemed to do the trick,dont know why customer support isnt working though
@tommy done!!!
@mb done!!
alright warchild i have 26,000 coins would have 30,000 but decided to buy one more premium gold...guess what was in it nicholas anelka haha but who can i make a profit of of for around 26
@ryan currently right now there is no real popular players going for that amount,i would save another 3-4k and get Fabregas for less than 30,it is possible as i have done it 7 times,he will then always sell at 34950.Always!!
ryan i will pay 17k + carrick 4 him ?
@moc sorry man im using him in my squad right now
@moc i have anelka make an offer better than the one above and he may be yours!!
oh dont worry guy i just bought him 4 18k cheapest on the market
@moc that is cheap wel done,i would consider putting him up,reckon ud get 25 and make 7,000 profit!!
i tried to sell anelka for 24k but no one picked him up so im just gunna keep him whats a good starting price for him
very nice blog with a lot of useful information. i bookmarked ur site
nice Hub again, your awsome at FUT this really helped me when i started!!!
@ryan thats surprising anelka should go for that,i would say starting of 19k and BIN of 24
@Jean + xdbx george thanks for the comments guys its nice to have some positive ones for a change!!!!!
P.s new hub out soon
Really want to know if chemistry really matters? i have a pretty good team but i dont like the fact that im limited. for example i cant find many good LB because there are none who play in the italian league. If i just buy a brilliant defender from any league that has no chemistry with the players around him will this really be a bad thing??
@ th3 7day th3ory i always say if ur chemistry is higher than ur team rating your be ok,have u tried getting a lb that isnt italian but plays in the italian league that would be my next step to a higher chemistry!!
yea man ive tried that and i cant find anybody good to be honest. is it worth me selling my team and trying to go for premier league maybe? or is it not worth the hassle for the same thing to happen again?
Not worth the hassle,man ive got a 86 rated team and 87 chemistry and im happy with that.my LB is taiwo and he is not in the same league or team as any of my other players,who cares!!!my team still does great.!!
i only have 4k on fifa now and i dont know hwho to buy to make my money back. any suggestions?
@xdbx george i wouldnt worry as i only have 10,000 m8
yeh but i have nothing
yea ive got taiwo aswell but not the in form. i might just let my chemistry drop a bit for a little bit more skill in the team then. thanks man
thanks so whats you next hub gunnabe on? :)
Sorted my problem :) i bought pato ST and he plays amazing with eto'o and just won an online tournie straight after :D
taiwo and pato my saviours lol
is there a way you can trade online on the computer or only one xbox?
@Ryan only on xbox. Wish they did do that though because i wanted to trade whilst on holiday to keep up with the market lol
@ryan my next hub is what players to buy in what price bracket ranging from 0-10k up to 90-100k the players that sell the best,its just hard finding some players in certain brackets,i say the more expensive the player the harder to get a profit.!!
sweet...im thinking about selling my team...but can u add me one that ea footballworld thing
do u know how much is the cheapest didier grogba on the market ?
I have another Question. When do you buy players. At the moment i have ~ 18000 and i think it works good. But i have problems to buy players for a good price at peak. so that i have to buy them out of peak and sell them later. but that need a lot of time from non peak to peak. I cant buy sell buy sell to get faster more money
regards
Who is the best right back in the game
sergio ramos i think
@ryan i will add you whats ur name on that site?
@moc about 30,000
@stefan it is better to buy off peak but you can still make a profit even at weekends during the day,just do your research on a player before commiting to buy
@Matty There is an 89 rated sergio ramos who is pretty good but The best skill wise is the uprated Maicon who is 91 i think he is rwb but can be changed to rb
okay thanks. but than i grow much slower than you. normally i buy 2 players at night and the other day i sell it at peak so i think ~4k per day profit. not 50k :/ have you any other tips ?
wat about RVP warchild ?
is 20k and bin of 25k good price for anelka
and my persona is R3CON95
dont worry i bought RVP 4 25k bin, and now lookin 4 drogba to complete my pattnership
@Mattynufc
im pretty sure the best RB in the game is Maicon? there is a 91 in form version of him now a believe. i just bought the 89 of him n theres not much difference tbh
Sorry just realised that warchild already replied to you Mattynufc
:)
Hi. How much does the value of a player go up if you have lots of contracts on them. Ie. I have a lescott with 50 contract how much would he go for?
Stefan got more tips coming out soon!!
@moc i have a drogba how much u wanna pay!!!?
@rob not really m8 ur get more cash if he is a certain formation such as 4-3-3 or 4-4-2,lescott has dropped in price rapidly and i doubt u would get much more than 5k
@Warchild75 a will buy drogba but for less than 30000
@matty nope!!! sorry!!
Thought u might say that
@warchild how much money do you have at the moment
@matty about 12,000 as i went on a 160,000 spending spree lol,i'll be on in an hour or so!!
nevermind warchild just bought van persie 25k bin
and drogba st 4-4-1-1 19.5k bin
now i need to start from scratch all over again got 45 coins and now what do u think i can do ?
i think u need to find drogba again at the lowest price ihave ever seen and resell him quick
y ? i bought him cheap and i think it is pretty good bargain
oh and i just won the jester open tour so i dont need to start from scratch anymore
@moc if u could find drogba at 19.5k and then resell at 30 which is what he usually goes for,ud be mad not too!!!
@warchild do you still buy and sell fabregas because i can never find him for cheap anymore
@matty yes i do,in fact just a few hours ago i got two of him one for 28450 and one for 29000 sold one for 34950 and one for 33950 as he didnt sell first time
@warchild who would you recomend i trade that costs less than 25000 as i went on a 100000 speding spree
thanks
Anelka if
u can get him for less than 20
i sold droba 4 33k bin and in 1 in he was sold, unbelieveable
take a look at my team
http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/ultimateteam/app
still looking for a new left back
@matty i do believe that is my team u have posted a link for matty and yes it is a rather good team lol
How is that i copied the link from the top of the page i had my team on
Dont know m8 but even when i copy and paste the address into a seperate tab it still comes up as mine,try it again m8 got to share then copy and then paste it straight here!!
http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/ultimateteam/app
has it worked this time
@matty yes it has thats a nice strong midfield you got there m8 i like it,think maybe you could improve your chemistry by maybe buying fabregas to replace ballack,as he would match well with puyol,just a thought
Yh a wos gunna buy xavi but a dont have enough money at the minute
@matty swap de rossi for ballack then change ballack for carrick and see what it does for your chemistry ;)
Chemistry goes up to 87 nice idea
@matty glad i could help,not much difference between ballack and carrick but the chemistry could help when playing,I'll have a look and see if i can help anywhere else!!
Just bought CDM xavi and swapped him with carrick then swapped de rossi and xavi roun and the chemistry is still at 87
Post another link to your current squad with new players and i will see what i can do!!
@matty nice one,may i suggest getting arbeloa who is a 83 rated spanish rb who is better then glen johnson and only about 5000 then swap both cb and cm spanish guys over to one side to match up with arbeloa!!!
Yh next time am on a will do that thanks
hi warchild i have added you on live buy the way its Robb017.
i have 77k from your method and its really helpful.
to make money do you buy small players or large players like maicon etc. because i am not making huge profits so fast.
i have the buying cracked but im not the greatest at selling.
i do have common sence though like researching players, bidding 3 times at once. but do you have any tips who i should buy? i know you like to keep your secrets lol but who can you make at least 4k profit on each time??
ive bought xavi, fabregas, zanetti, tevez, there all good at selling but do you have any tips for me??
thanks great hub by the way.
@robbie lfc xavi and fabregas are very good and are what i tend to buy all the time,i would stick with the cheap or intermediate players as oppose to buying the more expensive ones.
@warchild R u going to be doing anymore hubs on fifa ultimate team
@matty to be honest i had thought about winding it up as the next decent game to come out is ufc 2010 undisputed at end of may and im something of an expert at that too, so will be doing a few hubs on that one,unless of course anyone has any ideas for what they would like to see me wright about with regards to Fifa UT???
Wright a hub about how to win online tournaments!!!!
@ryan yeah i could do if i knew how to win tournaments lol!!!
u could do about how to get bargains
@moc yeah thats true i could do,i seem to be able to get bargains all the time!!Maybe
@warchild yeah write one about that!!!!!
i would love that!
in some of your hubs im sitting there wondering :O how did you get that fella for that price?? lol
i think you should do one final hub before you move on to UFC.
also who are you currently on the search for in the market?
ive got a tip of my own. if you think your in a bidding war with one person.. bid when the controller vibrates at like 3 second, they just give up and youll get a bargain?
my greatest bargain was zanetti for 6k sold for 15k
Feel free to add me on live and add me to a part, im always uo for a good trade!
xbox live: Robb017
@robbie LFC yeah ok i will write one about that,dont think it will be that long though thats the only thing,i have added you robbie but as u may have noticed i tend not to accept party invitations only because a lot of the time i accept and then find out that the person im talking to has 5 of his fifa friends in on the party and i just get bombarded with questions,no offence,if you want to ask something then send me a private chat invite.
i just got barry (84) for 650
warchild do u still play fifa i noticed ur team hasnt changes for like a week
@ryan havent played for 3 days now,my team changed a little i added fabregas to the midfield,just having lots of renovation done on my house so its hard to get the time
when you wrote the bit on temptation, i think you just had bad luck. i got milito (88) and had only opened like 15 packs
Missak 15 packs at 7,500k a time and u got milito 88. That was the point being made u had to spend about 120k to get a decent player.
can u answer me this question i want to start again but i have good players like anelka and i have 1 over 40trophies should i start again or not
@sam only you can decide that my friend!
if u wanted to keep anelka just trade him
I've been following your hubs and made about 2000 coins in 20 mins, so ive been very impressed so far... but thing is ive just bought walcott for 9000 thinking that was good. WIth the other buys i did research but for him i didn't bother, now im worried ive made a big mistake. do you think ill be able to sell him for 10,000?
oh and another good buy for about 1000 is carrick, i have got him for that twice now and got 2000 each time, could probably get more just dont want to push my luck
I have mentioned before of writing my own hub. I do like your hubs but so far the ones i have seen seem to have no concept on actual profit. When you list an item it says they will take a percentage of the price which it goes for. I monitored what players i sold and for how much and calculated what that percentage actually is. 0.5% is the amount they take from all sold items, this doesnt sound like much but is evidence that trading cheap players is the best way to make PROFIT. For example if you buy drogba for 37K and sell him for 40K people think they are making 3K profit, wrong. If you take off the percentage that is taken off the 40K (0.5x40K=2K) you are only making 1K profit. This means that finding players for 500 and selling them for 2K (easily done) is more profitable and much easier with less cash tied up in transactions. If people find this information useful let me know and i will start writing hubs about different aspects of the game in more depth.
@kezno7 i agree with what ur saying and think u may do ok at writing on here but i must pull you up on ur maths a bit,im not disputing the 0.5% as i havent done the research like u have but 0.5% of 40,000 is 200 not 2,000 so u are making 2,800 profit,but yeah u are right the smaller sums are better.The maths is 40,000 divided by 100 then times 0.5
Yea i realised later on id made a mistake i meant its 5% of the final sale price which is multiplying it by 0.05 but i got confused and somehow met in the middle :S I wasnt trying to argue with your methods because following your tips is how i managed to build my coins up. Its just i find it harder to find top rated players for cheap. Its maybe that im looking for the wrong players but theres a lot of players i can pick up for 500 coins and sell for 2k+ and its less risk. But i guess people have their own methods and if we all did the same we would just build competition and be back to square one!
@kezno no i agree with ur methods it is how i started and ammased a small fortune!!
anyone want to buy sergio aguero?
I just opened my first gold pack and i got a Di Natale 88, i was wondering roughly how many coins it's worth...
Ali 2 years ago
Very good read once again war child. I'm sure a lot of people will find this very helpful and help them avoid mistakes they might have made without this when trading. :)